jimmy comments on Intelligence Amplification Open Thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jimmy 15 September 2010 08:36:20PM *  20 points [-]

Psychedelics can have cognitive benefits. It's not what you'd chose if you need to concentrate on something, but if the problem requires a creative solution and you're stuck, it might be the way to go.

"What if I had not taken LSD ever; would I have still invented PCR? I don't know. I doubt it. I seriously doubt it." -Kary Mullis

I have a friend who came to a pretty big personal revelation about reductionism/human behavior when under the influence of DMT.

Another friend took a threshold dose of LSD and said something along the lines of "I've always known intellectually that aging is bad, but it finally hit me- at an emotional level. These [old] people are everywhere. They're falling apart right in front of us and we act as if its normal and okay! This is not okay!!!"

The interesting thing about this is that a full "tripping" dose is not necessary. The latter friend was on a dose low enough that neither he nor anyone else could notice the effects- other than the slightly changed thought processes, of course.

Comment author: Kevin 16 September 2010 07:19:26AM 7 points [-]

Also note that cannabis is a psychedelic and has caused similar insights in all sorts of people, including myself.

Comment author: kodos96 16 September 2010 07:36:52AM 6 points [-]

Only some people experience psychedelic effects from marijuana, and then usually only some of the time.... and when you do get psychedelic effects, they're nowhere near as intense as they are for "traditional" psychedelics.... still it's enough to get some of the positive effects being talked about here.

It's a real shame that its become rather hard to get ahold of "real" psychedelics these days.

Comment author: Kevin 16 September 2010 07:52:26AM *  13 points [-]

Psychedelic means something that causes a profound change in thought patterns. In anything beyond a mild dose, cannabis induces profound changes in thought patterns.

There are plenty of legal plants that contain illegal psychedelics. These plants are legal to buy, grow, and sell, but they become illegal if you possess them with the knowledge of their use. It is an actual thoughtcrime (in the USA).

  • Peruvian torch cactus contains mescaline.
  • Mimosa hostilis root contains DMT.
  • Dried poppy pods contain the opium blend of alkaloids.
  • Morning glory seeds contain LSA. They are coated in poison if you buy them at flower shops or a place like Wal-Mart, but are safe when bought from specialty stores online.

All can be purchased online by searching Google.

Comment author: thomblake 16 September 2010 03:24:21PM 5 points [-]

A lot of places avoid the "thought crime" problem by making the live plants legal but their products illegal. For example, in places where psychedelic mushrooms grow naturally, it is often legal to have them fresh but illegal to have them dried, as one would only dry them in order to use them but you wouldn't want to arrest an old lady for having a lawn.

Comment author: ratdreams 28 September 2010 08:39:03PM 1 point [-]

I hear that the experience of marijuana changes after you've tried LSD or mushrooms. The marijuana gets more "trippy." Do you think that is the case? And if so, why would that be?

Comment author: kodos96 28 September 2010 09:01:22PM 0 points [-]

Not in my experience.

Comment author: ieai 28 September 2010 04:30:18PM 0 points [-]

You can have level 5 trips from THC, you just need enough of it. See http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/faqs/psychedelic_experience_faq.shtml