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Comment author: cousin_it 23 September 2010 01:05:34AM *  1 point [-]

Our header image says "a community blog devoted to refining the art of human rationality". I spend a lot of effort trying to improve our shared understanding and don't consider it over-ambitious at all.

If you know for certain that most disagreements in politics are genuinely about terminal values of different people, rather than about factual questions (what measures would lead to what consequences), then you know more than I do, and I'd be very interested to hear how you established that conclusion. In fact this would be just the kind of progress I wish to see!

Comment author: randallsquared 23 September 2010 07:51:47PM 1 point [-]

Isn't it enough to show that there are at least some incompatible terminal values? If this is the case, then there can be no overall lasting agreement on politics without resorting to force (avoiding the naked use of which could be seen as the main point of politics in the first place).

Comment author: cousin_it 24 September 2010 01:00:20PM *  0 points [-]

Thanks for twisting my mind in the right direction. Phil Goetz described how values can be incompatible if they're positional. Robin Hanson gave real-world data about positionality of different goods. This doesn't seem to deal with terminality/instrumentality of values yet...