Craig_Heldreth comments on Reflections on a Personal Public Relations Failure: A Lesson in Communication - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Craig_Heldreth 02 October 2010 08:58:16PM 1 point [-]

Thank you for the suggestion. I have been working on the post off and on for over a month, since before the discussion area existed. So I had sort of decided on plunging into the top level post after re-writing and re-writing the sucker. I do not remember how I decided I did not want to discuss it ahead of time in the Open Thread. I like the post. I think it will be well received. It may not be. I am often surprised at how stuff I post on the internet is received; as often better than I was expecting as worse than I was expecting. It is often difficult to judge ahead of time how people are going to respond to what we offer. Still, it seems kind of mealy-mouthed or pussy-footing to not write it up as best as I can and just post it.

Comment author: orthonormal 02 October 2010 11:24:30PM 1 point [-]

I understand how you feel about this, but I think most of the veterans would think more of a person who showed them respect by getting feedback before putting their first post on the main page. Certainly I would.

...I wonder if it would be possible to implement the following feature: the first post for a new account automatically goes to the Discussion page for a few days before it posts to the main site. If that were a known feature,would you be bothered by it?

Comment author: Will_Newsome 02 October 2010 11:29:48PM 2 points [-]

Are first posts generally low quality? My first post was +50, and in my memory I recall most getting something like +10. Then again I do mostly remember just good posts.

Comment author: Alicorn 02 October 2010 11:35:14PM 1 point [-]

My first post was embarrassingly bad. It was downvoted when new, and remains in the low single digits.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 02 October 2010 11:37:08PM 0 points [-]

Should I resist the temptation to check it out?

Comment author: Alicorn 02 October 2010 11:39:06PM 4 points [-]

I didn't delete it or anything. You can read it if you want. It's a thing I wrote and I tend to leave those where they lie, lest I go too far in the other direction and only have a four-day window of stuff I still like online at any given time.

Comment author: orthonormal 02 October 2010 11:48:15PM 0 points [-]

Scanning back through the recent posts, I saw 4 or 5 first posts at 0 or lower in the last 2 months, out of about 20 first posts. (I have the feeling that there were a few more whose authors deleted them in the vain hopes of getting karma restored, but I could be wrong.)

Obviously, people who have been lurking for a while and hanging out with Less Wrongers in real life have a pretty good expected karma on their first post.

Comment author: komponisto 03 October 2010 02:03:26AM *  1 point [-]

Obviously, people who have been lurking for a while and hanging out with Less Wrongers in real life have a pretty good expected karma on their first post.

And I would expect that people who are already veteran commenters when they post for the first time probably have even better prospects.

Comment author: JohnDavidBustard 03 October 2010 01:43:11PM 0 points [-]

I think this comment highlights the distinction between popular and good.

High ranked posts are popular, good may or may not have anything to do with it.

Personally I find all this kowtowing to the old guard a bit distasteful. One of my favorite virtues of academia is the double blind submissions process. Perhaps there are similar approaches that could be taken here.

Comment author: Craig_Heldreth 02 October 2010 11:53:59PM 0 points [-]

It won't be until the 15th of October so I may change my mind and follow your suggestion; and I do appreciate you taking the time to give me this recommendation. That is just how I am leaning now and why.