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I'm not sure I prefer this new format. One nice thing about the open threads is that the comments appear on the recent comments thread. This way I now need to keep track of a second webpage.
Seconded. I've got the link to the Discussion Section comments feed in my toolbar now, but it's enough of a trivial inconvenience to follow it that I might abandon it over time.
Don't do it yourself - checking web pages for changes is a job not fit for a sentient intelligence (especially, Alicorn, one of your calibre). Google's Reader and the various LW RSS feeds can do that job for you.
But I don't want to clutter my RSS feed with every comment made on LW. I do try to at least skim everything, but I'm in a mood to read LW comments at different times than I am in a mood to catch up on other RSS things.
In fact, I used to be subscribed by RSS to the top-level posts on LW, but I unsubscribed, because I check manually so often that I wound up immediately marking the feed items read when they popped up.
Hmm. One of my design goals for this section is that we can relax a little more than on the main site, because the content isn't in the main site feeds.
Is that silly? Is there another way to achieve this and make it easy for you to follow?
If there was a third comments feed that combined both the Discussion and the regular comments, I could just check that - back to one-stop shopping for comments. I don't know how technically feasible that is.
We could, but think that link should be an open secret, rather than linked in the sidebar.
If you lined up all the things you wish we (Trike) had time to improve on LW, where would that sit in your list?
… what if you knew you could use something like one of these Google widgets or one of these Yahoo widgets, or a desktop RSS client to give you that?
The open secret is fine as long as there's a page I can bookmark with all comments in it. I don't see how I could make it happen with RSS without disrupting my current RSS management system.
One of these Google widgets or one of these Yahoo widgets, or a (new) desktop RSS client.
At least one of us is failing to understand the other.
I clicked the links and looked at them and it was not obvious what I was supposed to do with them. I use Google Reader. I try to keep it empty. I do not read feeds and Less Wrong comments on similar schedules, and don't want to. So I don't want Less Wrong comments to appear in my Google Reader.
If you're manually keeping track of webpages… you may be doing it wrong.
RSS feeds for major LW views (PROMOTED | NEW | TOP | COMMENTS and DISCUSSION) should be detected by your browser (and are in the sidebar), and Google's Reader is a great way to aggregate your feeds (from LW and every other site you want to "keep track of").
The RSS feeds have some important disadvantages: no scores, name of the poster of the parent comment, vote up/down links, or parent links. Having to click through an extra link to vote is a major disincentive, and a lot of context is lost. There's also duplication in both the article and comment feeds when things get edited.
The lack of scores may be unavoidable (RSS readers tend to gather posts when they're new and then not update them, so they'd just show zero scores), but the rest should be fixable.
Those are easy to add to the rss template.
Those might be easy to add to the template.
If we did it with js many RSS readers would strip it out, but bare vote links would work, at the cost only of spawning a new tab/window (so two clicks - vote, close).