Will_Newsome comments on Rational Terrorism or Why shouldn't we burn down tobacco fields? - Less Wrong

-2 Post author: whpearson 02 October 2010 02:51PM

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Comment author: Will_Newsome 02 October 2010 07:24:06PM *  5 points [-]

Uhm, it's seriously egregious and needlessly harmful to suggest that SIAI supporters should maybe be engaging in terrorism. Seriously. I agree with Yvain. The example is poor and meant to be inflammatory, not to facilitate reasonable debate about what you think utilitarianism means.

Would you please rewrite it with a different example so this doesn't just dissolve into a meaningless debate about x-risk x-rationality where half of your audience is already offended at what they believe to be a bad example and a flawed understanding of utilitarianism?

Comment author: Relsqui 03 October 2010 08:33:05AM 1 point [-]

A lot of the comments on this post were really confusing until I got to this one.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 03 October 2010 08:36:41AM *  0 points [-]

I should make it explicit that the original post didn't advocate terrorism in any way but was a hypothetical reductio ad absurdum against utilitarianism that was obviously meant for philosophical consideration only.

Comment author: whpearson 03 October 2010 02:24:35PM 0 points [-]

It was nothing as simple as a philosophical argument against anything.

It is a line of reasoning working from premises that seem to be widely held, that I am unsure of how to integrate into my world view in a way that I (or most people?) would be comfortable with.

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Comment author: Kevin 03 October 2010 10:15:59AM 0 points [-]

You missed the point. He said it was bad to talk about, not that he agreed or disagreed with any particular statement.

Comment author: whpearson 02 October 2010 08:01:06PM 0 points [-]

Done. The numbers don't really make sense in this version though....

Comment author: Will_Newsome 02 October 2010 09:01:30PM 0 points [-]

Thanks. The slightly less sensible numbers might deaden the point of your argument a little bit, but I think the quality of discussion will be higher.

Comment author: whpearson 02 October 2010 09:34:35PM 0 points [-]

Somehow I doubt there will be much discussion, high quality or low :) It seems like it has gone below the threshold to be seen in the discussion section. It is -3 in case you are wondering.