andrewbreese comments on The Irrationality Game - Less Wrong

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Comment author: andrewbreese 14 October 2010 08:22:54PM 12 points [-]

Valuable -- likely vital -- cooperative know-how for hugely changing the world has been LOST to the sands of time. (94%) Likely examples include the Manhattan Project, the Apollo program, genuinely uplifting colonialism, building the pyramids without epic hardships or complaints.

Much of this know-how was even widely applied during the lifetimes of some now living. Our simple loss of such important knowledge flies in the face of deep assumptions in the water we all grew up in: progressivism, that knowledge is always increasing, that at least the best First World cultures since the Renaissance have always moved forward.

There are world-changing status-move tricks seen in recent history that no one of consequence uses today, and not because they wouldn't work. (88%) Top-of-the-First-World moderns should unearth, update & reapply lost status moves for managing much of the world. (74%) Wealthy, powerful rationalists should WIN! Just as other First Worlders should not retard FAI, so the developing world should not fester, struggle, agitate in ways that seriously increase existential risks.

Comment author: Multiheaded 15 April 2012 08:52:03AM 1 point [-]

I don't understand..By what plausible mechanism could such a disastrous loss of knowledge happen specifically NOW?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 11 April 2012 03:19:03PM 1 point [-]

Much of this know-how was even widely applied during the lifetimes of some now living. Our simple loss of such important knowledge flies in the face of deep assumptions in the water we all grew up in: progressivism, that knowledge is always increasing, that at least the best First World cultures since the Renaissance have always moved forward.

The good news is that some version of this knowledge keeps getting rediscovered.

The bad news is that the knowledge seems to be mostly tacit and (so far) unteachable.

Comment author: [deleted] 11 April 2012 02:48:41PM -1 points [-]

Valuable -- likely vital -- cooperative know-how for hugely changing the world has been LOST to the sands of time. (94%) Likely examples include the Manhattan Project, the Apollo program, genuinely uplifting colonialism, building the pyramids without epic hardships or complaints.

Down voted because I think this is very plausible.