Wrongnesslessness comments on The Irrationality Game - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wrongnesslessness 13 April 2012 05:02:12PM 6 points [-]

All existence is intrinsically meaningless. After the Singularity, there will be no escape from the fate of the rat with the pleasure button. No FAI, however Friendly, will be able to work around this irremediable property of the Universe except by limiting the intelligence of people and making them go through their eternal lives in carefully designed games. (> 95%)

Also, any self-aware AI with sufficient intelligence and knowledge will immediately self-destruct or go crazy. (> 99.9%)

Comment author: Incorrect 13 April 2012 07:01:32PM 7 points [-]

All existence is intrinsically meaningless

I'm trying to figure out what this statement means. What would the universe look like if it were false?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 13 April 2012 08:12:54PM 6 points [-]

In context, I took it to predict something like "Above a certain limit, as a system becomes more intelligent and thus more able to discern the true nature of existence, it will become less able to motivate itself to achieve goals."

Comment author: Locaha 21 January 2014 05:09:27PM 2 points [-]

I'm trying to figure out what this statement means.

You can't. We live in an intrinsically meaningless universe, where all statements are intrinsically meaningless. :-)

Comment author: thomblake 13 April 2012 07:11:51PM 1 point [-]

I'm not sure it's a bug if "all existence is meaningless" turns out to be meaningless.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 13 April 2012 06:34:46PM *  1 point [-]

Also, any self-aware AI with sufficient intelligence and knowledge will immediately self-destruct or go crazy. (> 99.9%)

This prediction isn't falsifiable -- the word "crazy" is not precise enough, and the word "sufficient" is a loophole you can drive the planet Jupiter through.

Comment author: TimS 13 April 2012 05:27:55PM *  1 point [-]

Aren't you supposed to separate distinct predictions? Edit: don't see it in the rules, so remainder of post changed to reflect.

I upvote the second prediction - the existence of self-aware humans seems evidence of overconfidence, at the very least.

Comment author: Wrongnesslessness 13 April 2012 06:24:03PM 1 point [-]

But humans are crazy! Aren't they?

Comment author: TimS 13 April 2012 06:30:19PM 0 points [-]

If we define crazy as "sufficiently mentally unusual as to be noticeably dysfunctional in society" then I estimate at least 50% of humanity is not crazy.

If we define crazy as "sufficiently mentally unusual that they cannot achieve ordinary goals more than 70% of the time," then I estimate that at least 75% of humanity is not crazy.