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Comment author: Yvain 04 October 2010 05:49:44PM 5 points [-]

This is really good and I'm glad you posted it and I will be trying a lot of what you mention. Also, I'm glad Google helpfully informed me that there are two different uses of "jhana", because I only knew the other one and was about to post that if you reached dhyana your first time meditating I was pretty sure you were the Maitreya Buddha.

I find I have to meditate sitting up because I become very sleepy if I do it lying down. If you can avoid sleepiness, you may escape that need. I've also heard uncomfortable positions like lotus suggested because you're trying to stop all body movement, all positions become equally uncomfortable when you can't move at all in them, and it's better to have a position you know you're supposed to be uncomfortable in so you don't try to fake a shift. That having been said, I can't stay in lotus for forty minutes.

My biggest problem when meditating is that when I focus on my breath, I switch to breathing consciously, and I can't consciously get it right. I either end up gasping for breath or hyperoxygenated (which causes paraesthesias and which I confused with sort sort of mystical body energy or something for a while until I realized what was going on). Do you not have this problem?

Comment author: [deleted] 15 October 2010 06:18:21PM *  0 points [-]

My biggest problem when meditating is that when I focus on my breath, I switch to breathing consciously, and I can't consciously get it right.

Here's some advice from a guy named Ajahn Brahm:

A common problem at this stage is the tendency to control the breathing, and this makes the breathing uncomfortable. To overcome this problem, imagine that you are just a passenger in a car looking through the window at your breath. You are not the driver, nor a `back seat driver', so stop giving orders, let go and enjoy the ride. Let the breath do the breathing while you simply watch without interfering.

I also had this problem for a while.

Comment author: Yvain 15 October 2010 07:01:34PM 0 points [-]

I discovered something interesting regarding this yesterday. I mentioned that when I breathe too much, I get paraesthesias (feeling of numbness and tingling).

Well, now I've noticed that checking to see whether I have paraesthesias also causes paraesthesias. I don't know if this is true of everyone, but just thinking "I wonder if my face is tingling right now" causes my face to tingle quite perceptibly.

I think this was at the root of a lot of my worries over breathing "wrong".

Comment author: erratio 15 October 2010 11:38:21PM 0 points [-]

I did something like that the other week. I was lying in bed and I noticed a band of tingly numbness across the top of my head. I decided to try to deliberately extend the feeling across my whole head and got a bunch of perceptible twitching in various facial muscles as a result.