CronoDAS comments on Sam Harris' surprisingly modest proposal - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Douglas_Knight 06 October 2010 05:21:38PM 2 points [-]

Sam Harris makes me extremely nervous when he says in the FAQ(5):

[The Taliban] believe that they will enjoy an eternity of happiness after death by following the strictest interpretation of Islamic law here on earth.

He has a long history of asserting that people believe their dogma. While he has managed to say interesting things about religion despite this terrible handicap, I think one must be careful when reading him.

Similar is sketerpot's example of the burqa in France. I don't know what was meant by the example, but it's not a disagreement of individual preferences or belief about preferences. All sides are in tacit agreement that (most of) the purpose of the burqa is to show allegiance.

Comment author: CronoDAS 07 October 2010 12:51:31AM 3 points [-]

He has a long history of asserting that people believe their dogma. While he has managed to say interesting things about religion despite this terrible handicap, I think one must be careful when reading him.

Well, many people in the Taliban certainly do appear to act as though they believe their dogma.

Comment author: DilGreen 07 October 2010 09:35:18AM 0 points [-]

That is the awful thing about the interaction of humans and dogma.

What can start out primarily as a means of advertising allegiance can easily, particularly in stressed circumstances , become a trap.

To me, someone who undertakes a suicide bombing mission would appear to be someone who believes in the stuff about heaven et al very seriously indeed. However, journalists who have taken care to look into the real circumstances of these people have suggested that some at least of them are not particularly fervent believers, and have diverse reasons for participating. [http://www.newsweek.com/2008/07/29/dressed-to-kill.html] Perhaps this is an extreme case of the argument set out in this post: http://lesswrong.com/lw/2r0/dont_judge_a_skill_by_its_specialists/

Comment author: CronoDAS 08 October 2010 01:27:55AM 2 points [-]

You don't have to be a religious fanatic to blow yourself up, but it helps.