orthonormal comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 4 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: orthonormal 25 October 2010 10:09:55PM *  5 points [-]

Ch. 54: If Harry and Quirrell discussed the possibility of an Auror seeing them, Harry should have told Quirrell that AK is out of the question- no sense in killing one innocent person in the course of saving one innocent person.

And it's a pretty big miscalculation of Quirrell not to anticipate Harry's intervention at the key moment. He really should have seen by now that Harry's light side is that strong.

Unless, of course, that was the real gambit somehow.

ETA: Loved the writing, though- I was on the edge of my seat.

Comment author: DanArmak 26 October 2010 08:48:16AM 3 points [-]

And it's a pretty big miscalculation of Quirrell not to anticipate Harry's intervention at the key moment. He really should have seen by now that Harry's light side is that strong.

Harry didn't consciously intervene. His Patronus 2.0 sort of teleported to block Quirrel's spell. Quirrel (like Harry) may not have even been aware that could happen.

Comment author: dclayh 28 October 2010 05:07:08AM *  2 points [-]

And it's a pretty big miscalculation of Quirrell not to anticipate Harry's intervention at the key moment.

I interpreted it that he was just too caught up in duelling-lust, and momentarily eriregrq gb uvf Qnex Ybeq crefban, forgetting how Harry would react.

ETA: rot-13d some stuff which is apparently supposed to be secret again.

Comment author: wedrifid 28 October 2010 06:23:35AM *  1 point [-]

ETA: rot-13d some stuff which is apparently supposed to be secret again.

Huh? Spoilers for HP and HP:MoR are fair game here!

Comment author: thomblake 28 October 2010 05:07:59PM 0 points [-]

Spoilers for HP:MoR that do not come from the text itself are not so much fair game.

Comment author: wedrifid 28 October 2010 07:33:48PM 0 points [-]

They are if they are derived independently from the text via discussion here or guesswork. ie. You can guess stuff. They aren't if, um, you raid Eliezer's dwellings and find yet to be published manuscripts, for example. Or torture Eliezer to find out his plans. Any source of knowledge that hasn't passed through the bottleneck of the text at some point.

Dclayh didn't reveal anything remotely privileged. Or anything that hasn't been speculated on ad infinitum.

Comment author: thomblake 28 October 2010 07:50:25PM 2 points [-]

dclayh was complying with the spirit of this request from Eliezer:

I came to realize in time that what I thought was a bug was a feature, however frustrating that may be for me, so please rot13 that comment with the warning "spoilers even if you've read all chapters".

Comment author: Sniffnoy 25 October 2010 10:12:24PM 2 points [-]

It's also a pretty big miscalculation of Harry not to anticipate Quirrell using AK in such a case! But that makes sense, considering how Quirrell got him into this in the first place.