NancyLebovitz comments on Love and Rationality: Less Wrongers on OKCupid - Less Wrong

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Comment author: rhollerith_dot_com 16 October 2010 10:08:52PM *  1 point [-]

The thing I don't understand in all these discussion is I know a fair number of men in long term-- and sometimes happy-- relationships. They aren't high-display of masculinity guys, and yet,

Are these mostly older guys or more precisely guys in LTRs with older women?

The increase over the last 4 decades in female personal income has made the "beta good provider" male strategy less successful.

Also, some (e.g., the Man Who Is Thursday) say that the increase in female promiscuity has had a similar effect because (the thinking goes) once a woman has had sex with 1 or 2 extremely exciting men, she is less likely to settle for a LTR with a much less exciting one (and as long as she does not demand any sort of commitment from them, a woman using a "modern" sexual strategy will probably have sex with 1 or 2 extremely exciting men).

Although I have a relatively small circle of friends, even I have a friend of a friend, now in her 60s, who only ever had sex with one man (the father of her kids to which she is still married) and she was quite beautiful, grew up in the proverbial big city (Manhattan) and has and had no notable social handicaps.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 October 2010 10:15:39PM 1 point [-]

Most of my friends are around my own age, so both the men and the women are older than young.

I'm not sure what the typical age for starting the relationships was.

Comment author: rhollerith_dot_com 16 October 2010 10:25:14PM *  2 points [-]

I'm not sure what the typical age for starting the relationships was.

OK but note that my point is not that women get less choosy as they get older (though that is almost certainly true) but rather that it was easier for a man of average attractiveness to win the hand of a 30-year-old woman 30 or 40 years ago than it is today.