I agree about the overall structure of educational systems vis a vis grades, although there is apparently some evidence that being tested periodically helps one retain information.
Thanks, I hadn't seen the things that the linked NY Times article discusses before.
Actually, in fairness, I don't think he's generalizing; I think he's observing one example. My interpretation of the statement as prescriptive may not have been intended.
As you remark, equating "show your work" with "reject mental insights and alternative approaches" is too strong. My suggestion was that to the extent that he's drawing such an equivalence, he's likely to be generalizing from one example.
But in line with what you say above, the essay that the quote is from was written as a personal reflection rather than a careful analysis and so the quote is most properly viewed as an offhand remark reflecting on his own experience.
Of course, if it's to be included on this list, it should be expected to be interpreted as prescriptive.
I cited Thurston for a description of his own experience with school math.
I wonder whether my lack of preconceptions about the source of the quote was helpful or harmful here. (My guess is "no." ;))
Sure, makes sense. I was just giving some background in case you're curious. I personally found the essays that I linked above well worth reading.
I cited Thurston for a description of his own experience with school math.
Understood, but if it's included on a list of quotes about math education the overall thrust of which is to show what's wrong with it, the implication is that what he describes is one of the things which is wrong with it.
I hope it's clear that my last line there wasn't any kind of rejection of your explanation. I was just musing which way the bias ran. And I still think this is a worthwhile post overall.
Most people form their impressions of math from their school mathematics courses. The vast majority of school mathematics courses distort the nature of mathematical practice and so have led to widespread misconceptions about the nature of mathematical practice. There's a long history of high caliber mathematicians finding their experiences with school mathematics alienating or irrelevant. I think this should be better known. Here I've collected some relevant quotes.
I'd like to write some Less Wrong articles diffusing common misconceptions about mathematical practice but am not sure how to frame these hypothetical articles. I'd welcome any suggestions.
Acknowledgment - I obtained some of these quotations from a collection of mathematician quotations compiled by my colleague Laurens Gunnarsen.
In Reflections Around the Ramanujan Centenary Fields Medalist Atle Selberg said:
In his autobiography Ferdinand Eisenstein wrote about how he found his primary school mathematical education tortuous:
There is some overlap between Eisenstein's early school experience and the experience that Fields Medalist William Thurston describes in his essay in Mariana Cook's book Mathematicians: An Outer View of the Inner World:
Thurston's quote points to the personal nature of mathematical practice. This is echoed by Fields Medalist Alain Connes in The Unravelers: Mathematical Snapshots
In Récoltes et Semailles Fields Medalist Alexander Grothendieck describes an experience of the type that Alain Connes mentions: