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I really can't help but correct your math: 12! would be if you could choose how to order the 12 toppings, but that's not what you're doing - you're choosing a subset of them - that's 2^12 options. Don't worry, you were only off by five orders of magnitude.
Sorry about that.
Would we expect those who consciously learned the Dark Arts to be more or less responsible with them (that is, using them ethically) than those who are naturally skilled?
Well order is certainly an option, at least around here.
I've seen how they make sandwiches; the process is approximate enough that the order doesn't really matter. At least, not nearly as much as the choice to add or omit any particular topping would matter.
Location matters too. Around here, customers usually request toppings one at a time and watch them being added. In the UK (or at least in Leicester), I believe the typical interaction goes something like, "Salad?" followed by a negative or affirmative response.