Aurini comments on The Dark Arts - Preamble - Less Wrong

44 Post author: Aurini 11 October 2010 02:01PM

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Comment author: Aurini 12 October 2010 02:28:52AM 1 point [-]

My objection: forcing myself onto somebody unexpectedly (door-to-door), and using techiniques they're not prepared for, with an ulterior motive.

I believe in people's right to self-determination; that includes the right to be depressed.

Comment author: nerzhin 14 October 2010 06:48:10PM 4 points [-]

I believe in people's right to self-determination; that includes the right to be depressed.

I meet someone standing on a bridge, thinking about jumping off. Can I try to persuade them not to jump?

Does the answer depend on whether or not I'm being paid by a suicide-prevention group?

Comment author: HughRistik 12 October 2010 06:08:14PM 1 point [-]

In my view, the biggest problem with continuing to influence her is one you having mentioned: she withdrew consent to be influenced. More in my longer response.

Comment author: Academian 12 October 2010 06:22:17AM *  1 point [-]

I believe in not physically assaulting people. What does that have to do with being honest with them? Is it the ulteriority of your motive? I think it was clear that you were working for the charity, no? If you find a goal that benefits both you and me, are you interfering with my right to self-determination by telling me about it?