nshepperd comments on Luminosity (Twilight fanfic) Part 2 Discussion Thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: nshepperd 19 November 2010 12:41:21AM *  3 points [-]

I didn't think any change would be enough. Isn't morality subjunctively objective? What doesn't make sense is that you look like you're saying wedrifid_vampire's values are good according to wedrifid_now's values. If I were expecting to be "turned" I would do everything I can to maintain my current values after the event, because to do otherwise would be against my current values.

And my current values say that if it's a human or an endangered wolf, I'd save the human.

Comment author: wedrifid 19 November 2010 12:53:56AM 1 point [-]

I didn't think any change would be enough. Isn't morality subjunctively objective?

That doesn't preclude self reference. (sp. subjectively)

And my current values say that if it's a human or an endangered wolf, I'd save the human.

Does this apply in the extreme case? That is, species vs individual?

If I had a single use switch that could be used to either save the wolf species or save an individual human I'd flick it to 'wolf species'. The only reason I would even consider the other option is because humans lose their grip on perspective when it comes to morality - it is sometimes necessary to signal to them.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 19 November 2010 03:51:13AM 0 points [-]

Unless you can provide an objective reason why your values should prefer eating the wolf, I will assume it's because you have a rule saying that you should treat members of your own species specially.

Once you become a vampire, the extensional interpretation of this rule changes. It now says that you should treat vampires specially.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 19 November 2010 05:25:59AM 1 point [-]

I will assume it's because you have a rule saying that you should treat members of your own species specially.

I place value on sapience/sentience/self-awareness whatever you want to call it.