Vladimir_Nesov comments on Luminosity (Twilight fanfic) Part 2 Discussion Thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 25 November 2010 10:55:33AM *  2 points [-]

The test of how effectively Elspeth is hidden is how people other than Allirea react to her. Saeed lets her out of the cell, which constitutes excellent evidence that she can fade well enough to get the job done.

Yes, this tells that changing lies work. This doesn't address the question of efficacy of muttering the same lie.

Also, that "I'm 51, I'm 52, ..." works is indirect evidence that constant lies work as well, and proof-of-concept of how figuring out an efficient low-creativity algorithm can indeed bear fruit.

When Allirea fades someone else, Allirea herself is not affected by this.

She noticed that Elspeth "announces her presence" loudly, which is a perception on the same scale.

Comment author: Vaniver 27 November 2010 05:30:56AM 2 points [-]

She noticed that Elspeth "announces her presence" loudly, which is a perception on the same scale.

Yes, but Allirea seems to effect people other than herself. And so if she hides Elspeth to everyone but Allirea, her perception of how "loud" Elspeth is won't change.

Comment author: Lila 03 December 2010 09:53:44PM 1 point [-]

Allirea wouldn't be sensing how well her fading works on Elspeth. She would just be sensing how well Elspeth's "counter-fading" power is working. And it seems like she can sense that.