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Comment author: Lumifer 15 January 2014 07:32:22PM *  1 point [-]

How about the practical part of behaviorism, operant conditoning?

It looks much more like engineering than like science to me. I don't know it enough to have an opinion on how well it works.

Surely you realize that stability across individuals if not really to be expected overall in detail.

Of course and that's one of the reasons for me having doubts about the "sound science" label.

you just need to explain variation

Post factum..? :-)

In any case, if it all worked as well as you claim, surely psychotherapy for kids would be very effective. I suspect this is not the case in reality.

Comment author: tadamsmar 15 January 2014 08:11:11PM *  -1 points [-]

Actually if it works as well as I claim, psychotherapy for kids might be less effective. It involves changing the kid's environment. Psychotherapy can't do that. You have to get the parents to be willing to change and give them training.

On the contrary, the fact that psychotherapy works at all is evidence that the operant conditioning methods I am pushing are not the whole story, and of course operant conditioning is not the whole story.

By your definition, medicine is not a sound science because stability overall in detail is not to be expected due to genetic variability.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 January 2014 08:34:30PM 0 points [-]

By your definition, medicine is not a sound science

It is not.

Notice how only recently the idea of "evidence-based medicine" appeared and how much pushback there was (and is) against that idea.