Academian comments on Self-empathy as a source of "willpower" - Less Wrong

51 Post author: Academian 26 October 2010 02:20PM

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Comment author: Academian 28 October 2010 07:09:08PM *  3 points [-]

This sounds good in theory. But in my experience, WorthIt-Bob doesn't usually argue rationally.

I didn't say anything about WorthIt-Bob having to be rational... you've dealt with irrational people before, and you can deal with irrational sub-agents, too. Heck, you can even train your pets, right?

In particular, Orthonomal has some great advice for dealing with people and sub-agents alike: figure out all their feelings on the issue, even the ones they didn't know they had. Then they might turn out more rational than you thought, or you might gain access to the root of their irrationality. Either way, you get a better model for them, and you probably need it.

Comment author: Aharon 29 October 2010 12:13:46PM *  1 point [-]

Thank you both for this advice.

Actually, I haven't consciously modelled other people or myself. The feelings of other people usually seem rather clear to me, and for myself, I dealt with these problems on a case-by-case basis until recently. However, I am not content with the success of this case-by-case approach anymore, so I'm interested in changing that.

Concerning modelling people: How would one go about to do that? Are there any sequences on this topic, or could you recommend a book or something?