teageegeepea comments on Value Deathism - Less Wrong

26 Post author: Vladimir_Nesov 30 October 2010 06:20PM

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Comment author: teageegeepea 31 October 2010 04:44:01AM 2 points [-]

The future is lost when I cease to exist.

Comment author: timtyler 31 October 2010 10:13:42AM 6 points [-]

"Now I will destroy the whole world... - What a Bokononist says before committing suicide."

Comment author: MichaelVassar 03 November 2010 08:17:54PM 1 point [-]

Yep. That's the philosophy that the semi-wise pattern-recognizing pro-death are trying to oppose.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 31 October 2010 04:51:49AM 3 points [-]

Again, see Belief in the Implied Invisible. What you can't observe is still there, and still has moral weight.

Comment author: teageegeepea 31 October 2010 07:39:08PM *  4 points [-]

I do not anticipate any experience after I die. It is indistinguishable to me whether anything afterward exists or not. I'm not going to make arguments against any laws of thermodynamics, but if there is nothing to distinguish two states, no fact about them enters into my calculations. They are like fictional characters. And I assign moral weight based on ass-kicking. I suppose there might be an issue if denizens of the future are able to travel back in time.

Comment author: cousin_it 31 October 2010 08:01:10PM *  9 points [-]

There's no way you'd agree to receive $1000 a year before your death on condition that your family members will be tortured a minute after it. This is an example of what Vladimir means.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 07 November 2010 08:35:40PM -2 points [-]

We are confused because a human individual does not possess her own morality, but rather the morality of a "virtual agent" comprising that human's genetic lineage.