Vladimir_Nesov comments on Value Deathism - Less Wrong

26 Post author: Vladimir_Nesov 30 October 2010 06:20PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 01 November 2010 03:51:55PM *  2 points [-]

I'm not sure I understand this talk of "moral frames of reference" vs simply "values".

By analogy, take a complicated program as "frame of reference", and state of knowledge about what it outputs "current values". As you learn more, "current values" change, but frame of reference, defining the subject matter, stays the same and determines the direction of discovering more precise "current values".

Note that the exact output may well be unknowable in its explicit form, but "frame of reference" says precisely what it is. Compare with infinite mathematical structures that can never be seen "explicitly", but with the laws of correct reasoning about them perfectly defined.

Comment author: Kutta 01 November 2010 04:24:57PM *  0 points [-]

As you learn more, "current values" change, but frame of reference, defining the subject matter, stays the same and determines the direction of discovering more precise "current values".

Is there potential divergence of "current values" in this analogy (or in your model of morality)?