Kingreaper comments on Transhumanism and assisted suicide - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kingreaper 31 October 2010 10:40:28AM 5 points [-]

A common thread in the transhumanist community's ethics is "non-consensual effects are wrong"

Smallpox is a non-consensual cessation of existence. Suicide is consensual.

Is that, perhaps, the ethical principle that causes you to accept one and not the other?

Comment author: SeventhNadir 31 October 2010 11:09:24AM *  3 points [-]

Possibly, but consent in this context is a bit tricky.

A depressed person may actively want to die but we generally don't consider a person in this state as capable of consenting to anything.

If that same person had depression AND a fatal illness that will cause them suffer for another joyless 20 years, do we consider them capable?

Your suggestion is a really good rule of thumb but I'm just wondering if there is more to the story

Comment author: Kingreaper 31 October 2010 11:38:03AM *  4 points [-]

Ah; I suspect the explanation for this second part is:

You do not consider a person capable of consent if they are depressed because of a temporary and curable imbalance in the brain/mind system (ie they are mentally ill*)

You do consider a person capable of consent if they are depressed because their life really is shit, and it's going to stay that way (ie. a rational cost-benefit analysis would tell them "yeah, actually, you are better off dead")

*edit: ie. they are non-consensually incapable of rationality