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Comment author: Perplexed 01 November 2010 11:24:52PM 0 points [-]

Thx. From that interview:

Interviewer: So what's your take on Ben Goertzel's Cosmism, as expressed in "A Cosmist Manifesto"?

de Garis: Ben and I have essentially the same vision, i.e. that it’s the destiny of humanity to serve as the stepping-stone towards the creation of artilects. Where we differ is on the political front. I don’t share his optimism that the rise of the artilects will be peaceful. I think it will be extremely violent — an artilect war, killing billions of people.

Hmmm. I'm afraid I don't share Goertzel's optimism either. But then I don't buy into that "destiny" stuff, either. We don't have to destroy ourselves and the planet in this way. It is definitely not impossible, but super-human AGI is also not inevitable.

I'd be curious to hear from EY, and the rest of the "anti-death" brigade here, what they think of de Garis's prognosis and whether and how they think an "artilect war" can be avoided.

Comment author: timtyler 02 November 2010 08:43:52AM *  0 points [-]

It's just silly. Luddites have never had much power - and aren't usually very war like.

Instead, we will see expanded environmental and green movements, more anti-GM activism - demands to tax the techno-rich more - and so on.

Degaris was just doing much the same thing that SIAI is doing now - making a song-and-dance about THE END OF THE WORLD - in order to attract attention to himself - and so attract funding - so he could afford to get on with building his machines.

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