DanArmak comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 5 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanArmak 08 November 2010 07:20:21PM 2 points [-]

Perhaps Quirrell is just counting on the investigators not being very careful thinkers. Lord knows the wizarding world is full of those.

But why leave the flask at all, then? It must be meant to make them think something else.

whoever it was died shortly after being arrested, and expected the vial not to be noticed.

Couldn't be. Bella's been there for twelve years - and they've been feeding her daily, they'd have noticed if she died "shortly after". And the fake body doesn't look ten years dead.

What potion, if found by the Aurors near Bellatrix's corpse, would lead them to a useful-to-Quirrell conclusion?

Any potion being found stops the Aurors from thinking Bella just died in her cell in the ordinary way from Dementor exposure. (An event that would be no surprise at all, in her state.) A potion indicates outside involvement.

The Aurors would think: someone came from outside, gave Bella this potion-bottle, which is now mostly empty but recently contained something, and now Bella is dead. It certainly looks like poison.

The big mystery is that Harry knows it's there, he must know what its part in the plan is, and yet he seems to think that the original plan was to make the Aurors think that Bella died from natural reasons...

Of course, another possibility is that the flask wasn't meant to be found...

The description given of Quirrel concealing it makes it clear it wasn't well hidden. In fact it was barely hidden at all - if a wizard is doing the hiding, "covered with a piece of cloth in the corner" isn't that amazing. In fact it's on the bed instead of being under it, so it clearly isn't being hidden. The only way an investigator could believe someone was trying to hide it was if he believed that poor, mad, dying Bella was "hiding" it in her last moments.

Comment author: Sheaman3773 11 January 2011 09:26:13PM *  0 points [-]

I had a thought on this, and the page is closed, so to continue to follow this discussion, go here:

http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/364/harry_potter_and_the_methods_of_rationality/3bn6

edit: It occurred to me that making this post might have violated some necroposting rule that I'm unaware of. I'm not certain of the etiquette here; was this impolite? I just thought it made more sense for someone who reads this discussion for the first time to have a link to where it was continued.

Comment author: Larks 11 January 2011 10:50:49PM 7 points [-]

In general commenting on old posts in encouraged; for indexed posts like this forward-linking is probably best.

Comment author: Sheaman3773 12 January 2011 12:01:20AM 1 point [-]

Oh, truly? Thanks for the information, that's significantly different from most of the places I've hung around in before.

Comment author: jimrandomh 12 January 2011 12:12:00AM 1 point [-]

A lot of forums have threads sorted by most recent post date, so that commenting on an old thread moves it to the top. That's annoying, but Less Wrong's software doesn't do that, so commenting on old posts is fine.