David_Gerard comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 5 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: David_Gerard 14 November 2010 05:13:16PM *  3 points [-]

It bloody does include "gotten"! It's just regarded as an "Americanism", hence evil to the purity and beauty of the sacred English tongue [*].

British writers writing 'Merkin can be painful. I'm Australian and even I can tell.

[*] may not be 100% pure nor 100% sacred. Beauty may vary. Grammar may have settled in shipping.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 November 2010 12:08:25AM *  3 points [-]

I did two polls because of annoying constraints. The second one has comments, the first one may eventually get comments.

The results back up what you've said.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 November 2010 06:01:16PM 3 points [-]

Thanks. At this point, since I did get this confirmed by someone British, I'm going to do a livejournal survey. There may be local variation.

Comment author: David_Gerard 14 November 2010 07:22:10PM 0 points [-]

In fiction, it would pretty much never be wrong to remove "gotten", but it does come out of their mouths.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 November 2010 12:11:39AM 4 points [-]

That's an interesting question. British people-- some of them (and not all Americans, apparently) do use 'gotten', but seeing them use it in print will destroy some readers' suspension of disbelief. Truth or plausibility?

It seems to me that it would add versimilitude to have some British characters use more Americanisms than others, but that might be too subtle.