bentarm comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 5 - Less Wrong
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Well, cryonics aside, it's actually relatively easy for most people to draw a clear line between "killed" and "not-killed", and both of those examples seem to fall quite squarely on the "not-killed" side, as they don't result in death.
You clearly draw your line somewhere very different to most people. You should probably at least attempt to explain what you mean by "kill" if you're going to use it in such a non-standard way.