pjeby comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 5 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 29 November 2010 02:36:03AM 1 point [-]

I disagree. The existence of a Slytherin girl's time-turner was all but spelled out before, which qualifies it as not-DeM.

It's not that, it's that the entire timeline of events is inadequately spelled out (we're NEVER told what time it is, throughout the TSPE arc), and no mention was made of advance preparations to defeat time turner tests, or even that HP had to go run an errand that Q thought would be important later. (So that we would remember it and be curious what it was for.)

IOW, I was fine with him using someone else's time turner; it's the order of revelation of events that's problematic.

Comment author: MartinB 29 November 2010 02:50:54AM 0 points [-]

I was fine with him using someone else's time turner;

I thought that would be impossible. Otherwise you can just chain them, and travel further than 6 hours, or more than 6hours over a day.

The Test McGonagall administers seems ridiculously stupid. She should be aware of ways to counter act it. It seems odd that there is no way to simple find out how much a time turner has left or even where/when it was used by looking at it, or using the <retrievelogfile> spell.

Comment author: TobyBartels 01 December 2010 08:07:22AM 1 point [-]

Otherwise you can just chain them, and travel further than 6 hours, or more than 6hours over a day.

I expect that you can chain them, but you still can't travel (or even send information) more than 6 hours back in time. That restriction is part of the nature of time, not a limitation of time turners, and a chain of time turners can't break it any more than an individual time turner can, even if you were to turn it 7 times.

That's my interpretation, anyway.