Tiiba comments on Rationality Quotes: November 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Tiiba 03 November 2010 03:03:59PM 1 point [-]

I want to upvote this twice.

Comment author: byrnema 04 November 2010 01:08:47AM *  3 points [-]

This comment being upvoted +21 doesn't fit my model of LessWrong voting, because it personifies the natural world with a God-concept, even if it is advocating for science and evolution. Am I missing something?

Comment author: Perplexed 04 November 2010 03:01:46AM 5 points [-]

So should every every metaphor be voted down? Or just personifying metaphors? Or just metaphors mentioning deities?

I downvoted it because it perpetuated the myth that Galileo was tortured. Plus, God knows, the poetry was pretty awful.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 04 November 2010 03:44:13AM *  5 points [-]

So should every every metaphor be voted down? Or just personifying metaphors? Or just metaphors mentioning deities?

I figure this particular one strikes some as a bit iffy since the metaphor is so close to the salient metaphor the actual creationists are using and treating as a non-metaphor. Metaphors, like "God wrote life", closely associated with unsympathetic real-world groups tend to carry a bit extra baggage. The matter is of course confused further by the original context where this was written as a response to creationists.

Comment author: Tiiba 04 November 2010 08:18:47PM 0 points [-]

"Plus, God knows, the poetry was pretty awful."

I could agree with you more. But I won't.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 November 2010 05:49:50PM 0 points [-]

What details have you got about Galileo? I'd heard that he was shown the instruments of torture, and recanted at that point.

Comment author: Perplexed 04 November 2010 08:36:35PM 1 point [-]

Well, there is some dispute whether he was "shown the instruments". A historian named Gingerich apparently argues that the showing never took place. But, in any case, threat of torture is not torture - or at least it is not what comes to mind when the myth of torture is repeated. The myth is a falsehood, which, if repeated by someone who knows better, is usually referred to as a "lie".

Comment author: gwern 07 November 2010 01:41:03PM 1 point [-]

But, in any case, threat of torture is not torture - or at least it is not what comes to mind when the myth of torture is repeated.

Sounds like mock executions - they're not actually being executed...

Comment author: [deleted] 06 November 2010 07:01:13PM *  4 points [-]

I suspect it may be something similar to what NihilCredo said; rationalist quotes from theist sources are just so much fun.

Comment author: Alicorn 04 November 2010 01:10:49AM 6 points [-]

It's good art advocating for science.

Comment author: Unnamed 04 November 2010 01:47:12AM 4 points [-]

It beautifully promotes Joy in the Merely Real, and strongly encourages the pursuit of knowledge.