Sniffnoy comments on Control Fraud - Less Wrong

15 Post author: David_Allen 03 November 2010 07:12PM

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Comment author: Carinthium 22 November 2010 05:06:51AM 0 points [-]

If the head of government (with the collusion of the head of state) is commiting the fraud, how can it actually be illegal?

Comment author: Sniffnoy 22 November 2010 05:41:04AM 1 point [-]

...because the law is not just whatever the head of government says it is?

Comment author: Carinthium 22 November 2010 07:05:04AM 0 points [-]

Seems unlikely- you'd expect they'd change the rules to cover their tracks.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 22 November 2010 07:54:50AM 2 points [-]

Again, that assumes that changing the relevant rules is within the powers their office grants them.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 22 November 2010 07:40:27AM 1 point [-]

At the very least that would require publicly stating what you're doing. Depending on the government system it might also require the legislature's cooperation.

Comment author: David_Gerard 22 November 2010 01:38:42PM -1 points [-]

In this case, we're talking about an invocation of Nixon's rule ("if the President does it, it's not illegal"). In the case of a government, we're not talking about the law not being just what the head of government says it is, but the expectations of the governed. A head of government may to some extent be able to dictate the law as they go along, but at the risk of the governed overthrowing them.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 22 November 2010 11:53:11PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, obviously my answer assumes that "legal" is an actual well-defined category; but since the original question seemed to as well, and in this case there was an actual simple answer within that framework that didn't require dissolution of the question, I figured it was OK. :)