xamdam comments on The Curve of Capability - Less Wrong

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Comment author: xamdam 04 November 2010 10:07:41PM 9 points [-]

calling this "symbolic processing" assumes a particular theory of mind, and I think it is mistaken

Interesting. Can you elaborate or link to something?

Comment author: cousin_it 05 November 2010 11:14:13AM *  10 points [-]

I'm not Eliezer, but will try to guess what he'd have answered. The awesome powers of your mind only feel like they're about "symbols", because symbols are available to the surface layer of your mind, while most of the real (difficult) processing is hidden. Relevant posts: Detached Lever Fallacy, Words as Mental Paintbrush Handles.

Comment author: xamdam 05 November 2010 08:48:02PM *  1 point [-]

Thanks.

The posts (at least the second one) seem to point that symbolic reasoning is overstated and at least some reasoning is clearly non-symbolic (e.g. visual).

In this context the question is whether the symbolic processing (there is definitely some - math, for example) gave pre-humans the boost that allowed the huge increase in computing power, so I am not seeing the contradiction.

Comment author: Perplexed 05 November 2010 11:48:16PM 2 points [-]

Speech is a kind of symbolic processing, and is probably an important capability in mankind's intellectual evolution, even if symbolic processing for the purpose of reasoning (as in syllogisms and such) is an ineffectual modern invention.

Comment author: timtyler 06 June 2011 07:23:35PM *  0 points [-]

calling this "symbolic processing" assumes a particular theory of mind, and I think it is mistaken

Interesting. Can you elaborate or link to something?

Susan Blackmore argues that what originally caused the "huge increase in optimization power" was memes - not symbolic processing - which probably started up a bit later than the human cranium's expansion did.