Kevin comments on The hard limits of hard nanotech - Less Wrong

19 Post author: lsparrish 07 November 2010 12:49AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (53)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: Kevin 30 November 2010 10:36:41PM 0 points [-]

an entity whose terminal values are inconsistent with my continued existence

Indeed, but in the larger scheme of possible universe tiling agent space, Clippy and us don't look so different. Clippy would tile the universe with computronium doing something like recursively simulating universes tiled with paperclips. We would likely tile the universe with computronium simulating lots of fun-having post-humans.

It's a software difference, not a hardware difference, and it would be easy to propose ways for us and Clippy to cooperate (such as Clippy commits to dedicating x% of resources to simulating post-humans if he tiles the universe, and we commit to dedicating y% of resources to simulating paperclips if we tile the universe).

Comment author: wedrifid 01 December 2010 05:13:42AM *  0 points [-]

Clippy would tile the universe with computronium doing something like recursively simulating universes tiled with paperclips.

That is an interesting claim. I would be surprised to find that Clippy was content with simulated clips. Humans seem more likely to be satisfied with simulation than paperclippers. We identify ourselves by our thoughts.

Comment author: Kevin 01 December 2010 05:22:21AM 0 points [-]

Well, no, he's not just happy with simulated paperclips. The computronium he would tile is paperclip shaped, and presumably better to have that paperclipcomputronium simulating paperclips than anything else?

Comment author: shokwave 01 December 2010 02:21:26PM 0 points [-]

presumably better to have that paperclipcomputronium simulating paperclips than anything else?

Given that Clippy makes computronium at all, sure, but computronium is probably less efficient than some other non-work-performing material at forming paperclips.

Comment author: wedrifid 01 December 2010 01:38:17PM 0 points [-]

Well, you know him better than I! You have a business relationship and all.