Nick_Tarleton comments on The danger of living a story - Singularity Tropes - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 November 2010 02:12:41AM *  19 points [-]

Possible dangers of thinking you're living in a story:

Believing that if you're right and/or virtuous, you're going to win

Underestimating the power and usefulness of large organizations

Believing that what you're doing is the main story.

Of course, this is assuming that the story you think you're in is a certain kind of popular fiction.

If you thought that you were living in a realistic/naturalistic story, you'd be underestimating your chance of making a significant difference. I have no idea what thinking you were living in a tragedy would do to your presuppositions.

After Douglas Adams' death, I read a fair number of tributes which said his books had a large emotional effect-- people absorbed the attitude of expecting things to be absurd. I don't know what effect that's had on their lives.

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 15 November 2010 04:06:32AM *  18 points [-]

More:

  • Overestimating the agency of everyone and everything
  • Role-playing instead of trying to achieve goals
  • Expecting too clean a distinction between protagonists and antagonists
  • Underestimating the number, and overestimating the cohesiveness, of protagonists
  • Overly anticipating unlikely but dramatic events

(Most of these are more accurately described as "errors almost everyone makes all the time" than "dangers of thinking you're in a story", but thinking of them that way seems pretty useful for identifying them.)

Comment author: David_Gerard 15 November 2010 08:38:58AM *  9 points [-]

Edit: After reading this comment, I'll amend that to "Assuming villainy is the usual explanation for apparent bad behaviour."

Comment author: Peter_de_Blanc 17 November 2010 09:53:44AM 2 points [-]

horrifyingly deep and complex behaviour generated by perfectly normal blithering stupidity

So what is villainy, if it's not that?

Comment author: David_Gerard 17 November 2010 02:00:30PM -1 points [-]

They mean well, rather than being out to deliberately fuck you up.

Comment author: patrissimo 16 November 2010 12:22:36AM 3 points [-]

This is so common as to be an adage: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor)