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Comment author: XiXiDu 19 November 2010 12:46:34PM 6 points [-]

Classical philosophers like Hume came up with some great ideas, too, especially considering that they had no access to modern scientific knowledge. But you don't have to spend thousands of hours reading through their bad ideas to find the few good ones, because their best ideas have become modern scientific knowledge.

The reason why people read those works is to figure out how those people arrived at their wrong conclusions, what has changed so that we today know better and what this tells us about possible shortcomings of contemporary ideas. Learning from the failure of history and about our cultural evolution and the associated conceptual revolutions are some of the reasons to read what you might perceive as simply outdated.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 19 November 2010 07:42:18PM *  8 points [-]

That may be why people ought to read them, but I don't think it's why they read them. Philosophy, as taught in colleges and books, places almost no emphasis on methodology, identifying errors, critiquing and disposing of extremely bad or outdated ideas, etc. It's as if the Enlightenment never happened.

Michael Vassar says philosophy is a field unconcerned with what people in college teach as philosophy, but I don't know what he means. Possibly he means philosophers now are either analytic philosophers or deconstructionists.

Comment author: torekp 20 November 2010 03:50:28AM 4 points [-]

Philosophy, as taught in colleges and books, places almost no emphasis on methodology, identifying errors, critiquing and disposing of extremely bad or outdated ideas, etc.

?! Add "anything other than" right after "almost no emphasis on" and you'd have it about right. At least, judging by the two universities whose philosophy courses I took. YMMV.