Kingreaper comments on Blood Feud 2.0 - Less Wrong

-1 Post author: Strange7 29 November 2010 02:12PM

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Comment author: Kingreaper 29 November 2010 04:20:32PM 1 point [-]

You seem to be implying that the drive for vengeance is a socially constructed emotion, rather than an instinctual reaction.

Is that intentional?

Comment author: Strange7 29 November 2010 04:39:15PM 0 points [-]

Not particularly.

Regardless of the level at which a desire for vengeance operates, the point is to deter offense, and there have been social constructs to facilitate that purpose for all of recorded history, at least.

Comment author: Kingreaper 29 November 2010 04:41:19PM 1 point [-]

I'm just wondering why you structured your just-so story as though the hunter and friends had never felt the urge to vengeance, and therefore needed to invent the whole concept.

Comment author: Strange7 29 November 2010 05:31:12PM 0 points [-]

It's easier to imagine something being consciously designed and informally tested than having it emerge randomly and become canonized in instinct over generations.

Comment author: jmmcd 30 November 2010 03:13:23AM 1 point [-]

Easier to imagine, but more wrong? Reciprocal altruism evolved in lots of situations among animals which don't have language or consciousness, eg "cleaner fish", so vengeance is not that great a leap. It's part of tit-for-tat, after all.

Can anyone cite a paper specifically reporting vengeance among animals? It seems like it ought to be a necessary component of reciprocal altruism.