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The second has an implied "This sentence ..." so I'd say it's still self-referential.
edit: actually I don't think that's required (the quote is the subject) so it does count I suppose.
If I remember rightly, the process is called "quining" and while it produces similar paradoxes and problems, it is distinct from self-reference. Linguistically, at least - logically one might be a form of the other.
(Upvoted the edit!)