magfrump comments on Unsolved Problems in Philosophy Part 1: The Liar's Paradox - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cousin_it 30 November 2010 03:36:29PM *  5 points [-]

Well, we here agree that beliefs should pay rent. So you see the sentence "this sentence is false" or similar. What new things do you expect now?

This feels like the wrong step in the dance to me. Haven't you just thrown away all of mathematics? What new things do you expect after solving a quadratic equation?

Comment author: magfrump 30 November 2010 06:08:31PM 1 point [-]

To echo Tiiba but more formally: given a specific physical circumstance (transistors designed to do a computation) you can predict the result of the computation exactly and arbitrarily quickly (or as fast as you can look it up), because you have already done that computation.

For more abstract theorems, proving two things are equivalent leads me to expect one in the presence of the other.

For example, before proving Fermat's Last Theorem, I might expect there to be a right triangle whose three sides were squares of integers. Now I expect not to.