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73 Post author: Louie 01 December 2010 05:17PM

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Comment author: JonatasMueller 03 December 2010 12:03:33AM *  3 points [-]

Good post, though I thought that it is a little too focused on money. It could say (more explicitly) what types of charity are best, and what types of action... and other ways to help that aren't money.

In my opinion, some of the most efficient ways to achieve a positive difference are, foremost: (these are strategic priorities with more positive potential than all the rest) human genetic engineering and intelligence augmentation, artificial intelligence, and reduction of existential risks. In second order of importance: (these are ways to increase utility in the here and now) destroying animals and the environment (which are cause of huge suffering), producing artificial meat to replace cruel animal farming, promoting birth control among the poor.

Activities to achieve these goals include: - Becoming very rich and using the money to achieve them; - Convincing people with lots of money to donate to these causes, and any other people to become aware of them and contribute somehow, by various means, such as by writing books, articles, making movies, posting on websites, talking to them, encouraging them to do activities to achieve them; - Conducting research personally in fields such as genetic engineering, artificial intelligence, artificial meat, birth control, etc., and convincing more people to do the same; - Helping or creating charity organizations directed towards birth control; - Fighting and discrediting religion, which is a significant hurdle to many of these efforts; - Convincing people about the right general framework of ideas that is compatible with these goals.

In my opinion, most other kinds of efforts to make a positive change, such as feeding the poor; preserving the environment; curing diseases; giving education to the poor; etc., are overrated and short-sighted, their effects in the long-term being relatively small. An increase in intelligence would produce an increase in the ability to do everything else, so it would be much more effective in the long-term; all these measures lose importance if our civilization and technological advancement be lost to some global catastrophe.

When AI starts working, several problems on which people work now will be rapidly solved (except those that require lengthy experiments). Therefore focusing on these problems now may be a waste of time, except for the meantime until their solution by AI.

Raising money seems like a matter of chance or luck. You'll naturally try it but you can't count on it, so it's not a matter of deciding to do it. Raising public awareness and enthusiasm seems to be an action with a relatively high potential: you can potentially get many other people to raise money, do scientific research, and raise public awareness and enthusiasm in their turn, so this may be the action with the most potential, even though it only accomplishes indirectly. Doing scientific research personally seems to require high stakes, in career, life, and seems to depend a bit on the place you live and what are the things that you like to study and work in. This one is a hard decision, because it is sort of a gamble with your life.

Comment author: Louie 03 December 2010 11:09:26AM *  2 points [-]

Welcome to Less Wrong!

Hey, have you read this paper about cognitive enhancement? If not, you might like it.

Anyway, a lot of people have thought about this for years. This piece is a summary of that analysis. If you check the links in this article like these two videos and then read just these two articles, you might see more clearly why my article is organized the way it is and focuses heavily on donating while more or less ignoring other strategies.

And I agree with you that most efforts to make a positive change are overrated and short-sighted. That was kind of my point in #2 and #3. Most causes are inefficient at creating good outcomes or optimized for making you feel good, not creating good. I'm working on solutions versus maintenance, but if other people are determined to work on maintenance activities, it's better if they do them wisely.

It sounds like you already know a good deal about existential risk and the potential of AI. If you want to help out SIAI, I'm the remote volunteer coordinator. You can email me at louie.helm@intelligence.org

I can always use more help.