kpreid comments on Rationality Quotes: December 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 15 December 2010 08:05:51PM *  35 points [-]

'One day when I was a junior medical student, a very important Boston surgeon visited the school and delivered a great treatise on a large number of patients who had undergone successful operations for vascular reconstruction.

At the end of the lecture, a young student at the back of the room timidly asked, “Do you have any controls?” Well, the great surgeon drew himself up to his full height, hit the desk, and said, “Do you mean did I not operate on half the patients?” The hall grew very quiet then. The voice at the back of the room very hesitantly replied, “Yes, that’s what I had in mind.” Then the visitor’s fist really came down as he thundered, “Of course not. That would have doomed half of them to their death.”

God, it was quiet then, and one could scarcely hear the small voice ask, “Which half?”'

Dr. E. E. Peacock, Jr., quoted in Medical World News (September 1, 1972), p. 45, as quoted in Tufte's 1974 book Data Analysis for Politics and Policy; http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/12/the-ethics-of-random-clinical-trials.html

Comment author: kpreid 19 August 2011 03:03:44AM 2 points [-]

I have empirically determined that this quote is excellent for reading aloud. 2/3 of the audience was moved to applause.

Comment author: gwern 19 August 2011 03:10:05AM 1 point [-]

Cool! What audience was that?

Comment author: kpreid 19 August 2011 05:00:29PM 2 points [-]

3 coworkers at lunch. I used it for comparison with the (arguable) equivalent problem with deliberate experiments on law/government/society, which was the topic of discussion.

But my conclusion above is probably mostly due to that the quote is written as a story; it even has text explicitly indicating tone of voice.