David_Gerard comments on The Truth about Scotsmen, or: Dissolving Fallacies - Less Wrong

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Comment author: FormallyknownasRoko 05 December 2010 11:07:32PM *  16 points [-]

I would love to know what words to emit at a logically untrained person to make them switch sides in a debate, rather than merely annoy them by wiping out their fallicious arguments. This article doesn't seem to tell me. It does seem to hint at leaving him an obvious line of retreat though. Often that isn't enough, though.

Comment author: David_Gerard 06 December 2010 03:57:41PM *  4 points [-]

You have to sell your idea. Some people have an immediate "ugh" reaction to the idea of selling anything in any way, but there are plenty of white-hat means to do so, e.g. 1 2. This is a completely different skill to debating. It's attracting people to your idea rather than pushing it on them. To herd cats, first work out the local value of tuna.