David_Gerard comments on Best career models for doing research? - Less Wrong

27 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 07 December 2010 04:25PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (999)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: David_Gerard 07 December 2010 05:29:04PM *  8 points [-]

There is the minor detail that it really helps not to hate each and every individual second of your working life in the process. A goal will only pull you along to a certain degree.

(Computer types know all the money is in the City. I did six months of it. I found the people I worked with and the people whose benefit I worked for to be excellent arguments for an unnecessarily bloody socialist revolution.)

Comment author: wedrifid 07 December 2010 06:57:43PM 2 points [-]

A goal will only pull you along to a certain degree.

For many people that is about half way between the Masters and PhD degrees. ;)

If only being in a university was a guarantee of an enjoyable working experience.

Comment author: FormallyknownasRoko 07 December 2010 06:19:46PM *  1 point [-]

Curious, why did it bother you that you disliked the people you worked with? Couldn't you just be polite to them and take part in their jokes/socialgames/whatever? They're paying you handsomely to be there, after all?

Or was it a case of them being mean to you?

Comment author: David_Gerard 07 December 2010 06:22:06PM *  2 points [-]

No, just loathsome. And the end product of what I did and finding the people I was doing it for loathsome.

Comment author: FormallyknownasRoko 07 December 2010 06:27:11PM 2 points [-]

I dunno, "loathsome" sounds a bit theoretical to me. Can you be specific?

Comment author: CronoDAS 07 December 2010 06:40:00PM *  4 points [-]

One of my brother's co-workers at Goldman Sachs has actively tried to sabotage his work. (Goldman Sachs runs on a highly competitive "up or out" system; you either get promoted or fired, and most people don't get promoted. If my brother lost his job, his coworker would be more likely to keep his.)

Comment author: FormallyknownasRoko 07 December 2010 07:36:07PM 2 points [-]

I don't understand: he tried to sabotage his cowerker's work, or his own?

Comment author: sfb 07 December 2010 07:38:17PM 6 points [-]

CronoDAS's Brother's Co-worker tried to sabotage CronoDAS's Brother's work.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 07 December 2010 09:11:32PM 0 points [-]

"Hamlet, in love with the old man's daughter, the old man thinks."

Comment author: David_Gerard 08 December 2010 01:03:25AM *  2 points [-]

Not without getting political. Fundamentally, I didn't feel good about what I was doing. And I was just a Unix sysadmin.

This was just a job to live, not a job taken on in the furtherance of a larger goal.