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Comment author: wedrifid 09 December 2010 05:31:37PM 4 points [-]

I can tell you all about equal pigs and newspeak but 'memory-holing' has not seemed to make as much of a cultural footprint - probably because as a phrase it is rather awkward fit. I wholeheartedly approve of Orwell in principle but actually reading either of his famous books sounds too much like highschool homework. :)

Comment author: Jack 09 December 2010 06:12:21PM 4 points [-]

Animal Farm is probably passable (though it's so short). 1984 on the other hand is maybe my favorite book of all time. I don't think I've had a stronger emotional reaction to another book. It makes Shakespeare's tragedies look like comedies. I'd imagine you'd have similar feelings about it based on what I've read of your comments here.

Comment author: wedrifid 09 December 2010 07:02:49PM 1 point [-]

That's some high praise there.

It makes Shakespeare's tragedies look like comedies.

So I take it there isn't a romantic 'happily ever after' ending? :P

Comment author: [deleted] 10 December 2010 10:49:14PM 0 points [-]

Actually, there is... ;)

Comment author: Vaniver 09 December 2010 05:36:54PM 1 point [-]

Both are short and enjoyable- I strongly recommend checking them out from a library or picking up a copy.

Comment author: David_Gerard 09 December 2010 05:34:10PM *  1 point [-]

Read them. They're actually really good books. His less-famous ones are not as brilliant, but are good too.

(We were taught 1984 in school, I promptly read to the end with eyes wide. I promptly borrowed Animal Farm of my own accord.)

Comment author: [deleted] 10 December 2010 10:50:52PM 1 point [-]

His less-famous novels aren't as good. On the other hand, some of his essays are among the clearest, most intelligent thinking I've ever come across, and would probably be of a lot of interest to LessWrong readers...

Comment author: David_Gerard 10 December 2010 11:12:44PM *  0 points [-]

Oh yeah. Politics and the English Language is a classic on a par with the great two novels. I first read that in 1992 and wanted to print copies to distribute everywhere (we didn't have internet then).

Comment author: MBlume 10 December 2010 11:45:43PM 1 point [-]

I'm terribly curious now -- did the use of any of the phrases Orwell singles out in the article actually drop significantly after the article was published? Wikipedia will not say...

Comment author: David_Gerard 10 December 2010 11:52:26PM 1 point [-]

Well, reading it in the 1990s and having a burnt-out ex-Communist for a housemate at the time, I fear I recognised far too many of the cliches therein as current in those circles ;-)

Comment author: [deleted] 10 December 2010 11:58:18PM 1 point [-]

A lot are still current in those less rational/more angry elements of the left who still think the Labour Party represents socialism and use phrases like that to justify themselves...

Comment author: [deleted] 10 December 2010 11:37:13PM 1 point [-]

Yeah, that's one of those I was thinking of. Also things like the piece about the PEN 'anti-censorship' event that wasn't, and his analysis of James Burnham's Managerialist writing...