OK, I think I'm following you now.
And, yes, we were talking about definitions: I wanted to make sure I understood what you were actually saying before I tried to respond to it.
Instead, can you tell me what you think 'realness' is, and whether or not you think God is real, and why or why not?
I think we label something a "real X" to assert that it implements a deep structure that characterizes X, rather than merely having a superficial appearance of X.
For doing that to be meaningful we have to be prepared to cash it out in terms of the deep structure we're asserting; if we can't do that then we don't mean anything by the phrase "real X."
When someone says "Y is real," I try to interpret that to mean "Y is [a real X]" for some plausible X. If someone says "The elephant I'm seeing is real," I probably understand them to refer to (I1) a real elephant, which implies that it has mass and occupies volume and reflects light and radiates heat and so forth.
If they mean I1, and it turns out that what they are seeing doesn't have those properties, then they are wrong. If they meant, instead, that it is (I2) a real activation of their retina, then questions of mass and volume are irrelevant... but if it turns out their retina isn't being activated, then they're wrong. If they mean, instead, that it's (I3) a real activation of their visual cortex, then questions of retinal activation are irrelevant... but if it turns out that their visual cortex isn't being activated, then they're wrong.
Regardless of whether they're right or wrong, these are all different claims, even though the same words are being used to express them. If they mean I3 and I understand I2, communication has failed.
If I've understood you: if I say "God is real," you understand that to mean (J1) my neurons are being activated. And J1 is certainly true. But if I meant to express something else (J2) which implies the entity responsible for the creation of the universe once split the Red Sea in order to allow my ancestors to escape from the Egyptian army, then communication has failed.
Sure, we can get along just fine regardless, as long as we stay pretty vague. I can say "God is real" and you can reply "Yup, he sure is!" and we get lots of social bonding value out of it, but communication has nevertheless failed... unless, of course, our only goal was social bonding in the first place, in which case everything is fine.
So, back to whether I think God is real... I think the thing you're asking about is real, yes. That is, there exist neurons that get activated when people talk about God, and those activation patterns are kinda-sorta isomorphic to one another.
As for why I think that... I don't know how to begin answering that question in fewer than a thousand words. I don't think it's in the least bit controversial.
But I don't think that's what anyone else I've ever met would mean by the same question.
Related to: Dissolving the Question, Words as Hidden Inferences.
In what sense is the world “real”? What are we asking, when we ask that question?
I don’t know. But G. Polya recommends that when facing a difficult problem, one look for similar but easier problems that one can solve as warm-ups. I would like to do one of those warm-ups today; I would like to ask what disguised empirical question scientists were asking were asking in 1860, when they debated (fiercely!) whether atoms were real.[1]
Let’s start by looking at the data that swayed these, and similar, scientists.
Atomic theory: By 1860, it was clear that atomic theory was a useful pedagogical device. Atomic theory helped chemists describe several regularities:
Despite this usefulness, there was considerable debate as to whether atoms were “real” or were merely a useful pedagogical device. Some argued that substances might simply prefer to combine in certain ratios and that such empirical regularities were all there was to atomic theory; it was needless to additionally suppose that matter came in small unbreakable units.
Today we have an integrated picture of physics and chemistry, in which atoms have a particular known size, are made of known sets of subatomic particles, and generally fit into a total picture in which the amount of data far exceeds the number of postulated details atoms include. And today, nobody suggests that atoms are not "real", and are "merely useful predictive devices".
Copernican astronomy: By the mid sixteen century, it was clear to the astronomers at the University of Wittenburg that Copernicus’s model was useful. It was easier to use, and more theoretically elegant, than Ptolemaic epicycles. However, they did not take Copernicus’s theory to be “true”, and most of them ignored the claim that the Earth orbits the Sun.
Later, after Galileo and Kepler, Copernicus’s claims about the real constituents of the solar system were taken more seriously. This new debate invoked a wider set of issues, besides the motions of the planets across the sky. Scholars now argued about Copernicus’s compatibility with the Bible; about whether our daily experiences on Earth would be different if the Earth were in motion (a la Galileo); and about whether Copernicus’s view was more compatible with a set of physically real causes for planetary motion (a la Kepler). It was this wider set of considerations that eventually convinced scholars to believe in a heliocentric universe. [2]
Relativistic time-dilation: For Lorentz, “local time” was a mere predictive convenience -- a device for simplifying calculations. Einstein later argued that this local time was “real”; he did this by proposing a coherent, symmetrical total picture that included local time.
Luminiferous aether: Luminiferous ("light-bearing") aether provides an example of the reverse transition. In the 1800s, many scientists, e.g. Augustin-Jean Fresnel, thought aether was probably a real part of the physical world. They thought this because they had strong evidence that light was a wave, including as the interference of light in two-slit experiments, and all known waves were waves in something.[2.5]
But the predictions of aether theory proved non-robust. Aether not only correctly predicted that light would act as waves, but also incorrectly predicted that the Earth's motion with respect to aether should affect the perceived speed of light. That is: luminiferous aether yielded accurate predictions only in narrow contexts, and it turned out not to be "real".
Generalizing from these examples
All theories come with “reading conventions” that tell us what kinds of predictions can and cannot be made from the theory. For example, our reading conventions for maps tell us that a given map of North America can be used to predict distances between New York and Toronto, but that it should not be used to predict that Canada is uniformly pink.[3]
If the “reading conventions” for a particular theory allow for only narrow predictive use, we call that theory a “useful predictive device” but are hesitant about concluding that its contents are “real”. Such was the state of Ptolemaic epicycles (which was used to predict the planets' locations within the sky, but not to predict, say, their brightness, or their nearness to Earth); of Copernican astronomy before Galileo (which could be used to predict planetary motions, but didn't explain why humans standing on Earth did not feel as though they were spinning), of early atomic theory, and so on. When we learn to integrate a given theory-component into a robust predictive total, we conclude the theory-component is "real".
It seems that one disguised empirical question scientists are asking, when they ask “Is X real, or just a handy predictive device?” is the question: “will I still get accurate predictions, when I use X in a less circumscribed or compartmentalized manner?” (E.g., “will I get accurate predictions, when I use atoms to predict quantized charge on tiny oil drops, instead of using atoms only to predict the ratios in which macroscopic quantities combine?".[4][5]
[1] Of course, I’m not sure that it’s a warm-up; since I am still confused about the larger problem, I don't know which paths will help. But that’s how it is with warm-ups; you find all the related-looking easier problems you can find, and hope for the best.
[2] I’m stealing this from Robert Westman’s book “The Melanchthon Circle, Rheticus, and the Wittenberg Interpretation of the Copernican Theory”. But you can check the facts more easily in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
[2.5] Manfred asks that I note that Lorentz's local time made sense to Lorentz partly because he believed an aether that could be used to define absolute time. I unfortunately haven't read or don't recall the primary texts well enough to add good interpretation here (although I read many of the primary texts in a history of science course once), but Wikipedia has some good info on the subject.
[3] This is a standard example, taken from Philip Kitcher.
[4] This conclusion is not original, but I can't remember who I stole it from. It may have been Steve Rayhawk.
[5] Thus, to extend this conjecturally toward our original question: when someone asks "Is the physical world 'real'?" they may, in part, be asking whether their predictive models of the physical world will give accurate predictions in a very robust manner, or whether they are merely local approximations. The latter would hold if e.g. the person: is a brain in a vat; is dreaming; or is being simulated and can potentially be affected by entities outside the simulation.