Normal_Anomaly comments on A fun estimation test, is it useful? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 21 December 2010 01:10:41AM 0 points [-]

I got 5 right, and was off by 1 degree of latitude on the Shanghai one. I kinda knew I was nowhere near 90% confidence, because 5 of my estimates spanned 2 or more orders of magnitude and I wanted them to be at least somewhat meaningful.

Comment author: rwallace 21 December 2010 04:10:55AM 2 points [-]

I am still of the opinion, though, that if I think an estimate spanning two or more orders of magnitude (as some of mine did in this test -- that's the only way I was able to get them all right) would be considered meaningless/badly received, it's better to say "I don't know" than claim accuracy I know I don't have.

Comment author: Emile 21 December 2010 09:55:23PM 2 points [-]

Saying the weight of the heaviest whale is "somewhere between 1 and 1000 tons" is just a nerdy and technical way of saying "I have no frickin' idea".

Comment author: [deleted] 21 December 2010 06:08:50AM *  2 points [-]

Not ironically, there are ancient posts from Elizier and Robin concerning exactly this: "I Don't Know." and "You Are Never Entitled to Your Opinion"

Comment author: Sniffnoy 21 December 2010 11:22:30PM 0 points [-]

Actually I found the exercise interesting for that reason. On most of them I had what I considered no idea, but the requirement to get actual numbers forced me to clarify just what the limits on "don't know" were. (Only one I got wrong by its standards was the Pacific coastline one. I did the area/volume ones by starting by estimating the size of Connecticut...)

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 21 December 2010 12:18:24PM 0 points [-]

Definitely. In the real world, if somebody had asked me the length of the Pacific coastline or the number of books published in the US, I would say I had no clue. I do like this test even though I'm kvetching about it, it's interesting and maybe useful.