nazgulnarsil comments on The Illusion of Sameness - Less Wrong

10 Post author: Elizabeth 22 January 2011 06:41AM

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Comment author: nazgulnarsil 22 January 2011 06:17:08PM 4 points [-]

I think elitism is valuable in that it helps prevent this error (amongst other reasons). I despise false humility from the highly intelligent in this pro egalitarian age.

Comment author: Perplexed 22 January 2011 10:10:26PM 3 points [-]

I think elitism is valuable in that it helps prevent this error.

Helps prevent what error? The error of expecting other people's beliefs to match your own? I don't see how elitism helps here. As I understand the story, it was "shocking" precisely because, before the event, there was no obvious reason to feel superior.

Comment author: Blueberry 23 January 2011 02:28:23AM *  2 points [-]

The obvious reason is that Elizabeth is highly intelligent, and the other people are random teachers in upstate New York. A highly intelligent elitist should expect to have superior ideas to those around em (see Joshua's post below for a discussion of whether or not intelligent people actually do tend to agree on politics, however).

(Edited to clarify my reference to Joshua's post.)

Comment author: JoshuaZ 23 January 2011 03:01:09AM 4 points [-]

It isn't clear that there's a strong correlation between intelligence and correct viewpoints. See this subthread where that point was very strongly made with a lot of examples.

Comment author: Perplexed 23 January 2011 02:50:54AM *  3 points [-]

Ok, but if someone is one-in-a-thousand intelligent, and a Democrat, then it may be correct for them to take an elitist stance, but I don't think it is correct to infer that the other 999-in-a-thousand are Republicans. At least I hope not.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 23 January 2011 02:39:21AM 1 point [-]

Nothing in my post said that.

Comment author: Blueberry 23 January 2011 02:53:56AM 1 point [-]

Clarified. :)

Comment author: nerzhin 22 January 2011 09:42:27PM 2 points [-]

I think I disagree, but I'm not sure what elitism means here.

Elitism might help prevent this error. But can it lead to other errors?

Comment author: komponisto 22 January 2011 10:00:04PM 3 points [-]

Elitism might help prevent this error. But can it lead to other errors?

Yes. For any method of correcting an error, there's always a possibility of overcorrecting.