taryneast comments on Tallinn-Evans $125,000 Singularity Challenge - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Quirinus_Quirrell 01 January 2011 11:12:03PM 10 points [-]

I'm beginning to think that LW needs some better mechanism for dealing with the phenomenon of commenters who are polite, repetitive, immune to all correction, and consistently wrong about everything.

The problem is quite simple. Tim, and the rest of the class of commenters to which you refer, simply haven't learned how to lose. This can be fixed by making it clear that this community's respect is contingent on retracting any inaccurate positions. Posts in which people announce that they have changed their mind are usually upvoted (in contrast to other communities), but some people don't seem to have noticed.

Therefore, I propose adding a "plonk" button on each comment. Pressing it would hide all posts from that user for a fixed duration, and also send them an anonymous message (red envelope) telling them that someone plonked them, which post they were plonked for, and a form letter reminder that self-consistency is not a virtue and a short guide to losing gracefully.

Comment author: taryneast 01 January 2011 11:31:48PM *  8 points [-]

Posts in which people announce that they have changed their mind are usually upvoted

As a total newbie to this site, I applaud this sentiment, but have just gone through an experience where this has not, in fact, happened.

After immediately retracting my erroneous statement (and explaining exactly where and why I'd gone wrong), I continued to be hammered over arguments that I had not actually made. My retracted statements (which I've left in place, along with the edits explaining why they're wrong) stay just as down-voted as before...

My guess is that some of the older members of this site may realise that this is how it's supposed to work... but it's certainly not got through to us newbies yet ;)

Perhaps it should be added to the etiquette section in the newbie pages (eg the karma-section in the FAQ) ?

Comment author: David_Gerard 28 January 2011 11:04:35AM 1 point [-]

I hereby suggest once again that "Vote up" and "Vote down" be changed to "More like this" and "Less like this" in the interface.

OTOH, there's the reasonable counterargument that anyone who needs to be told this won't change their behaviour because of it - i.e., rules against cluelessness don't have anything to work via.