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Comment author: Giriath 15 January 2011 07:22:10AM *  1 point [-]

So it looks as if Demetri is finally going to kick the bucket over the next few chapters? I hope they manage to kill him before he can contact Volterra with the news that there are a whole lot of more vampires in Denali than the traitors have reported.

This chapter further solidified my infatuation with Allirea. I'm not really sure why I like her so much--probably because I associate her with most of the sparse humorous moments in the series. I believe the killing of lifeforms can often be selective, and think that the more sentient should especially not be killed. Therefore I don't approve of Allirea killing humans when she has many options to survive without doing so. But I also believe we are our consciousness and personality, and that that is shaped by the experiences our environment gives us. I don't believe in punishment as a way to make things "better". I think people can change to be happier and healthier (which is my definition of "good" and "right") and to want that for other people, too, but punishing them for how their environment has shaped them is not the way to do that. I think you do that by exposing them to the beliefs you want them to endorse, and encourage them to inform themselves about it.

Still, I'm not naïve enough to think that everyone will be willing to commit to that change, or that there will always be an opportunity to introduce it. If someone is trying to hurt or even kill me and I've exhausted every other option, I'd probably hurt or kill them back. Maybe I won't even have time to think about my options, or I do but I don't because I'm not infallible to fear or greed and other emotions that may make me think and act differently than I otherwise would, once faced with an unusual situation.

In the case of Demetri arriving in the recent chapter, I'd probably approve of killing him. He would be a huge risk to extremely many lives in so many ways should they incapacitate him and try to help him change his ways.

Comment author: mjr 17 January 2011 09:23:43AM 5 points [-]

In the case of Demetri arriving in the recent chapter, I'd probably approve of killing him.

Me, too. But kudos to Alicorn for making him, and the killing itself, tragic. Hell, it was effectively in part a mercy killing at that point.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 January 2011 05:30:58PM 2 points [-]

In the case of Demetri arriving in the recent chapter, I'd probably approve of killing him.

I hope very much to see Demetri slaughtered next chapter, preferably cinematically and in slow-motion.

Allirea (or more specifically, the way people behave around Allirea) can be funny, but the scene with her saying goodbye to her children was heartwrenching.

And Bella is back! I really liked seeing Bella through Elspeth's eyes, and watching Elspeth reassess that relationship.

One request: can we get a physical description of Siobhan, for those of us who haven't read the books? There are various references to her being "huge" and I'm not sure exactly how to construct that, mentally.

Comment author: Alicorn 15 January 2011 05:42:48PM 2 points [-]

One request: can we get a physical description of Siobhan, for those of us who haven't read the books? There are various references to her being "huge" and I'm not sure exactly how to construct that, mentally.

From Luminosity, Book 1:

Siobhan was a brunette, with a short and well-maintained haircut. She was very tall and broad, and she moved forward to greet us with an undulating smoothness that I considered trying to emulate before deciding that its impressiveness depended on her size. I wondered if she could beat Emmett in a fight and was unsure. She was barefoot, like the others, and they were all dressed in simple outdoor wear.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 January 2011 05:53:25PM 0 points [-]

Awesome, thank you. I remember that scene now--it probably didn't stick in my mind across the two stories because Siobhan wasn't terribly important in Luminosity.