Alicorn comments on Luminosity (Twilight Fanfic) Discussion Thread 3 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 17 January 2011 03:23:19PM 3 points [-]

But she seems to care too much, on the order of a mate-bond.

Jacob nearly got himself killed trying to protect Elspeth. I couldn't have her thinking "me oh my, this is a dispreferred state of affairs".

Werewolf imprinting gradually activates the vampire mate-bond phenomenon, which is present in Elspeth despite her hybridity?

No, absolutely not. Mating isn't "gradual", at least not in the magical sense (the relationships can develop gradually), and if this had happened, Brady would still be alive (they had Marcus check Pera for a mate bond to him and he found no such thing and Chelsea was able to snip what there was.)

Half-vampires have the vampire mate-bond phenomenon

No.

Elspeth has actually fallen in love with him

No. For crying out loud, she can be distressed that her wolf is full of poison because he got between her and an assailant without being in love with him. Please don't try to wedge what Jacob and Elspeth have into conventional relationship patterns. It won't work, or if it does, I am doing it wrong.

Comment author: shokwave 17 January 2011 04:31:56PM 0 points [-]

Huh. Her reaction to Jacob's injury was remarkably similar to a vampire's reaction to their mate being injured. I can't recall any examples of non-mate reactions that were this instantaneously overriding.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 17 January 2011 04:40:33PM 1 point [-]

I don't think a vampire reacting to their mate being injured would consider whether other people asking for their attention might actually be worth attending to, as Elspeth does:

"ELSPETH!" my mother shouted, but didn't she have the scar to prove that she could survive being bitten, the baldness to prove that she could survive being powdered and ignited? She didn't need me. Jake did.

Comment author: Alicorn 17 January 2011 04:42:55PM 2 points [-]

To be fair, Elspeth is mistaken about why Bella was shouting - Bella just thought Elspeth shouldn't be leaving Allirea's protection.

Comment author: [deleted] 17 January 2011 11:34:38PM 2 points [-]

Which is actually a fairly telling detail from a characterization standpoint. I'm pretty sure that the Elspeth of chapter one would have interpreted Bella's order correctly. Now her first thought is that her mother might be depending on her. That shows that she's gained confidence in her own power, and also that she's learned about her parents' fallibility.