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Comment author: alethiophile 25 January 2011 12:37:37AM 1 point [-]

If Bella shields phased Jacob while another alpha is also phased, does the shield extend to that alpha and/or his/her pack? It's mentioned in Luminosity that there can be cross-talk between wolves in different packs to some degree if both alphas are phased. Will this allow Elspeth to transmit to all the wolves at once if the alphas are phased? If both are true, then they can carry out a surprise attack with the wolves by having them all phase, Bella shield Jacob, and Elspeth disillusion them all with the Volturi at once; they would then presumably yield to their general instinct to attack vampires, and with the shield in place they could well be immune to most of the powerful witches in the compound (Jane and Alec certainly, possibly Aro's shield (Renata?) as well). With some intelligent use of Elspeth, the wolves could know just as much about the compound, village, town as the Volturi, and if this was timed in conjunction with another attack (by a newborn army, perhaps), it could cause major damage.

Comment author: Alicorn 25 January 2011 12:55:00AM 1 point [-]

If Bella shields one wolf in a pack, she shields them all. This does not interfere with inter-pack telepathy. Elspeth's power does not propagate through a pack the way Jane's or Alec's does, so sending to one phased wolf will not automatically give other phased packmates copies of the sending, although if she sent something in real time, the other wolves could listen in while the wolf she sent to received it.

having them all phase

They'd do this how?

Comment author: alethiophile 27 January 2011 03:39:02AM 1 point [-]

Wait until the wolves are on a mission with their Volturi handlers, then do it. Have the wolves kill the handlers and run. Doesn't have the same shock value as an attack on Volterra, but may well hurt the Volturi fairly badly depending on who of the guard is in the party and adds the wolves to the rebels' side rather than the Volturi's.

Does Bella's shield extend through the telepathy between different alphas, or not? If not, the utility of the plan is lessened, though the mission variant could still work if the alpha there forwards Elspeth's deprogramming to his/her pack. (Who are the alphas? Still Rachel, Rebecca and Jacob only?)

Comment author: Alicorn 27 January 2011 03:52:07AM 1 point [-]

Wait until the wolves are on a mission with their Volturi handlers

The wolves do not all go on missions simultaneously. (Only ten were in the group that captured Elspeth out of Denali, for instance.) While on missions, they are sometimes not all phased simultaneously.

Does Bella's shield extend through the telepathy between different alphas, or not?

Not.

Who are the alphas? Still Rachel, Rebecca and Jacob only?)

Yes.

Comment author: alethiophile 27 January 2011 04:17:30AM 0 points [-]

Maybe not as useful, then. I still think that Bella's shield-pack ability has to be significant in the future; it's too blatant a foreshadow not to be.