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Comment author: JoshuaZ 16 April 2011 02:59:23AM 0 points [-]

Or we could just standardize on the male pronoun, which has backward-compatibility advantages.

I'd be very curious to see a study seeing if this did actually impact what gender people think of examples by default. Note that there have been studies showing that kids are more likely to think of a "fireman" as male than a "firefighter" and for similar roles, but I'm not aware of any such study for pronouns. I suspect you'd have the same result.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 16 April 2011 03:40:47AM 4 points [-]

I'm not a statistically significant study, but given "The agent's husband stood up from the table," I would expect pretty much everyone to assume without much effort that the agent was female, but given "The agent led his husband onto the dance floor," I'd expect most people to become confused, and some to assume a gay male agent, and very few to assume a female agent.

That suggests that the "his" gets treated as evidence of the referent's masculinity strong enough to override a strong prior in the other direction.

Comment author: pertinaciousfox 16 March 2015 12:11:01PM 0 points [-]

My predisposition to assume that an agent is male is stronger than my predisposition to assume heteronormative relationships. My immediate reaction to the sentence, "The agent's husband stood up from the table" was to suppose a male agent with a male spouse. But I'm probably unusual in this regard.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 16 April 2011 03:45:05AM 0 points [-]

I agree with your analysis but I'd like to see some form of formal study confirm it.