Peter_de_Blanc comments on Working hurts less than procrastinating, we fear the twinge of starting - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Peter_de_Blanc 02 January 2011 08:06:55AM 9 points [-]

This sounds reasonable. What sort of thought would you recommend responding with after noticing oneself procrastinating? I'm leaning towards "what would I like to do?"

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 03 January 2011 12:40:53AM 1 point [-]

Sounds great. Or, "what will I do now?". Obviously, with curiosity, not frustration.

Comment author: Marcello 02 January 2011 08:42:49AM 17 points [-]

Offhand, I'm guessing the very first response ought to be "Huzzah! I caught myself procrastinating!" in order to get the reverse version of the effect I mentioned. Then go on to "what would I like to do?"

Comment author: Jasen 03 January 2011 08:57:56PM 6 points [-]

I've been able to implement something like this to great effect. Every time I notice that I've been behaving in a very silly way, I smile broadly, laugh out loud and say "Ha ha! Gotcha!" or something to that effect. I only allow myself to do this in cases where I've actually gained new information: Noticed a new flaw, noticed an old flaw come up in a new situation, realized that an old behavior is in fact undesirable, etc. This positively reinforces noticing my flaws without doing so to the undesirable behavior itself.

This is even more effective when implemented in response to someone else pointing out one of my flaws. It's a little more difficult to carry out because I have to suppress a reflex to retaliate/defend myself that doesn't come up as much when I'm my own critic, but when I succeed it almost completely eliminates the social awkwardness that normally comes with someone critiquing me in public.

Comment author: Swimmer963 03 May 2011 01:29:25PM 1 point [-]

but when I succeed it almost completely eliminates the social awkwardness that normally comes with someone critiquing me in public.

Agreed! I started using this response to criticism several years ago, and actually got a compliment on it. I never thought of applying it to my own criticisms of myself, though...good idea.

Comment author: David_Gerard 03 January 2011 11:46:07PM *  2 points [-]

Every time I notice that I've been behaving in a very silly way, I smile broadly, laugh out loud and say "Ha ha! Gotcha!" or something to that effect.

If I did this I'd be shouting "Gotcha!" all the live long day.

Let me tell you about this morning. I mostly work from home, but showing up at the office is very useful. So much stuff works better face to face. It saves a lot of faff on IRC. And the connection is faster.

I got up in good time, had a proper breakfast, very nice cup of tea thank you, got myself ready, got on a curiously uncrowded tube train with no copies of Metro (that's your foreboding, I shall point out), got to work, and ... the large iron gates were chained shut.

Because today is the New Year bank holiday.

If I'd procrastinated, of course, I'd have been in bed till eleven like I'd much have preferred to be.

This was a pretty much mathematically perfect example of doing exactly the right things to get something done, except for the fact of doing it at all.

Edit: And today I showed up when people were actually here. My co-workers find me having shown up yesterday hilarious. The perfect employee: dedicated and stupid. The Book of the SubGenius does say that when you foul up, you should crow about it and call great attention to it and you will be thought of as a creative genius.

Comment author: beriukay 02 January 2011 10:38:22AM 6 points [-]

Another possibility, accidentally just discovered by me right now, was that simply reading the title of this article in my RSS feed got me to realize that my desk was a total mess (that's been bothering me for months now), so instead of reading it, I cleaned my desk. Then I read it.

So just reading the title of this post could be enough to get some things done.

Comment author: Bobertron 23 March 2011 08:06:54PM 0 points [-]

This makes lot of sense to me. In the kind of meditation I'm trying, you are supposed to concentrate on your breath. Instructions usually say that, if you mind wanders, just put attention back on the breath in a non-judgemental way. Don't put yourself down.

What's more, I once read that, when you notice your mind has been wandering, you should be happy because you had a moment of awareness and an opportunity to learn concentration. That's like saying "Huzzah! I caught my mind wandering!"