How do you explain, assuming everyone uses CDT, why most people don't shoplift, given the constraints I listed?
But that is an absurd request for explanation, because you are demanding that two false statements be accepted as hypotheses:
As to the definition of "winning", I sense that there is still a failure to communicate here. Are you talking about winning individuals or winning societies? As I see it, given your unrealistic hypotheses, the winning strategy is to shoplift, but convince other people that they win by not shoplifting. The losing strategy seems to be the one you advocate - which is apparently to refrain from shoplifting, while encouraging others to shoplift by denying the efficacy of punishment.
But that is an absurd request for explanation, because you are demanding that two false statements be accepted as hypotheses:
- That shoplifting is risk-free.
- That everyone adheres to a particular normative decision theory.
No, I'm showing that they can't both be true. (Btw, what does "normative" add to your meaning here.) (1) is false, but easily close enough to truth for our purposes.
As I see it, given your unrealistic hypotheses, the winning strategy is to shoplift, but convince other people that they win by not shoplifting.
Hence the...
I have not seen any place to discuss Eliezer Yudkowsky's new paper, titled Timeless Decision Theory, so I decided to create a discussion post. (Have I missed an already existing post or discussion?)